Curse

Magikarp · Jul 21, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by upier

I guess my Prozac is working - since everything that the current depression is giving me is a smile on my face.

making the game stupid easy and more of a joke than it already is is a good thing? right?

Accursed · Jul 21, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Makes everything more easily and after this "depression" Guild Wars would be freshly new.

lakatz · Jul 21, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I would play the game as if it was an RPG, not a trade simulator.

Yeah, weird I know.

Exactly... the game is old now... interest has waned... and so accordingly has the economy. Just play.

upier · Jul 21, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

making the game stupid easy and more of a joke than it already is is a good thing? right?

I thought the OP was bitching about the craptastic economy?
Which is a good thing.

Lady Raenef · Jul 21, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by upier

I thought the OP was bitching about the craptastic economy?
Which is a good thing.

I wasn't bitching. Oh no, I'm not complaining about my favorite armors being cheaper than ever saving me money. I'm just saying, that there isn't anything really 'leet' for players to obtain. Nothing really prestigious anymore except maybe Crystalline and Eternal blades.

Remember back when Kanaxai's axe was 100k + e? Now they're merchant food. Those are the days I'm talking about, what would it take to get our economy back into that era, so that things like that can be rare again? Things are overfarmed, so nothing is as 'cool' as they were back in the day.

I'm not bitching, just overseeing.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 21, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

I really dont care how much other players will pay for a whatever--they only things that matter to me are the merchant, rare materials and armor crafters...and for the most part these are pretty stable no matter if your butt ugly sword which you paid 100p +100000000etcos for is now as common as a fungal wallow mini----it matters not to me since as has been said, its worthless outside the game. And I certainly dont care about which sword you have in storage seeing as I probably wont party with you, so will never see it per se....so waste you money as you see fit.

I couldnt care less about that kind of ecomony, so it can sit in depression for the rest of gw's lifespan!

Stockholm · Jul 21, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

I wasn't bitching. Oh no, I'm not complaining about my favorite armors being cheaper than ever saving me money. I'm just saying, that there isn't anything really 'leet' for players to obtain. Nothing really prestigious anymore except maybe Crystalline and Eternal blades.

Remember back when Kanaxai's axe was 100k + e? Now they're merchant food. Those are the days I'm talking about, what would it take to get our economy back into that era, so that things like that can be rare again? Things are overfarmed, so nothing is as 'cool' as they were back in the day.

I'm not bitching, just overseeing.

So Cool = expensive is that what your trying to say?

All you want is for players to be able to show off how much they have accumulated in GW?

And how would that help the game?

byteme! · Jul 21, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

I wasn't bitching. Oh no, I'm not complaining about my favorite armors being cheaper than ever saving me money. I'm just saying, that there isn't anything really 'leet' for players to obtain. Nothing really prestigious anymore except maybe Crystalline and Eternal blades.

Remember back when Kanaxai's axe was 100k + e? Now they're merchant food. Those are the days I'm talking about, what would it take to get our economy back into that era, so that things like that can be rare again? Things are overfarmed, so nothing is as 'cool' as they were back in the day.

I'm not bitching, just overseeing.

So how an item looks means nothing to you? Anet could release a wooden sword that looks just like a branch off a tree but it would be super rare. They will purposely make the skin butt ugly but make it super rare so it would sell for 100k +xxx ecto and you'd be all over it? You're gonna floss your butt ugly bling bling just to show everyone how rich you are?

Judging by your statement. The Kanaxai Axe "was" cool only when it could fetch a decent amount of cash. The skin, stats, and usage have not changed at all. Only thing is the rarity and price. This makes it "not" cool anymore?

@OP - Your title is wrong. Depression? The community is experiencing the exact opposite. I could elaborate more but it's just as easy for you to look up depression in a dictionary.

Dark Paladin X · Jul 21, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

considering the fact ectos are now cheaper than two years ago, it gives more incentive to make chaos gloves.

Innocent · Jul 22, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

The answer is very simple. Anet just needs to take a lesson from the more experienced and successful online games out there like WOW/EQ...people want items that EVOLVE and become MORE POWERFUL the deeper they get into the world/game. Even Diablo 2 has better equipment and gear to go after than GW. Gw design around vanity and skins is the lowest level of fun in all the online rpg games because it never changes in POWER or EVOLVES into something greater. This is why the economy will eventually collaspe because there is no increase in evolving power or stats. Most people don't want to just play the same content over an over UNLESS there is something BETTER to get while doing so. I acually laugh at people who farm in this game...what are you farming for? lol everyone and their mothers brother can now get whatever you get (thanks to Ursans Blessing

) so, what's the point anymore?

I really hope they don't stick to this silliness of vanity and skins in GW2 or it will just be another failure and wannabe that could have been but didn't make it.

You know what does evolve and change as you play Guild Wars? Your personal skills.

ReZDoGG · Jul 22, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

What we need for the economy, is a new Expansion or Campaign. New rare items would help a bit. Of course the economy is gonna go down when the last expansion was a year ago. The game has been the same since, so of course people are going to grind the same valuable items over and over, it is the one of the few ways to make good money.

The way it is looking, people will start falling out of GW including myself. Lately, I find myself logging then realizing that there was nothing I wanted to do, and end up sitting around thinking about what to do... Once you do pretty much everything, it eventually gets boring... I thought the whole UW Chaos Plains farming with the previous A/E builds was actually a good thing for the players and economy. It actually gave people something to do and make good money doing it, no matter what ectos were going for... either way, it is good money. It was actually easier to sell stuff before the last SF/UW Nerf, but now it seems alot more difficult to get rid of stuff, simply because people are goin broke again after sellin all their ectos, and buying all the stuff they wanted. I thought it was a big mistake for the economy, even though no one would agree, but some people don't think like I do. Making the game more fun only means more people will play, the more people would be making money, the more they they would have to spend on items, meaning the easier it would be to get rid of stuff no matter what the prices are. Rarity of the items will always be the same, except the ones that are usually farmed easily of course, but no matter what there will be some items that will stay over 100k for some time now. Either way it is money to be made. People always cry about prices dropping, but they don't realize that is how an economy works. It will always work that way in games, and in real life. There is no such thing as a perfectly stable economy, doesn't exist, and never will. Just have to except changes in prices, not much you can do about it. Once something is around long enough, of course it will lose its value, especially in games... Live with it

Everyone was crying their asses off about the price drops in ectos and wanted SF to get nerfed, well look at it now, nothing about the price of ectos has changed, but yet now we have less to do and the game is just a tad less fun. I used to do alot of A/E Sliver farming (outside UW), but now I don't even bother with it... Farming anywheres besides UW/FoW was hard enough to make money/profit, but now with Sliver and SF being nerfed it is only going to make things harder and take longer to the point where it ain't effecient enough to farm for profit. This would actually kind of force Sins farmers into UW, so they can actually make some kind of money, which it rediculous. Not to mention, farming only once place would get really boring quick. But oh well, the game is going to sh*t because of those hardcore nerdy azz cry bags on all these forums. Personally, I am getting tired of hearing complaints, everyone is living in a fantasy, thinking everything should be PERFECT.

But yeah, I new suprise Expansion would be nice, and might actually keep me around for another year. Otherwise, I will probably be lookin for another MMO to play until GW2 is released because two years is just waaaaay too long to be playing the same game, same content over and over and over. I strongly feel this way, and I am beginning to feel like we are in for a suprise... Anet would be too stupid to leave everyone with the same game for another two more years, but of course barely any veteran players would stick around... well thats my two cents.

Bryant Again · Jul 22, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35

You can really look at it in one of two ways:

-Since everything "highend" is based around vanity and rarity and not any circumstantial bonus, there should be no reason to have everything be within reach.
-Since rarity and looks are the only things going for the items and since you don't need anything besides what can be bought from merchants, items should retain their worth.

Nemo the Capitalist · Jul 22, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

delete account

or better yet go into the sun and have a life.

Lady Raenef · Jul 22, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

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Originally Posted by byteme!

So how an item looks means nothing to you? Anet could release a wooden sword that looks just like a branch off a tree but it would be super rare. They will purposely make the skin butt ugly but make it super rare so it would sell for 100k +xxx ecto and you'd be all over it? You're gonna floss your butt ugly bling bling just to show everyone how rich you are?.

Before you flaunt off your stupidity, the skin means quite a bit. Green sucks because you can't customize, for your information. Such as, I would never buy a Crystalline sword. It's ugly. While I'm trying to avoid flaming in this thread, anyone as thick headed as you would find the slightest reason to go insane to make your epeen bigger.

Gaia_Hunter · Jul 22, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by zamial

There is a problem with the economy? I sell everthing to the merchant or give it away, as is. I lead a very closed-off life in GW just my guildies and me. It works out rather well, they give me/help me out with things I am doing and in return I help them out/give things to them. I just sold a bunch of greens to the merch as well, after asking if anyone in guild could use them. I could care less if ecto, shards, rubies, ect. were at 10 gold at the trader. It makes no difference to me or my guildies. lol You say you have an item worth xxxx ectos? I say you have an item worth what the merch will pay or the next fool with large quanities of gold, fortunatly for you the later is growing. Which is not a depression by anymeans......

Very true.

People dont care for the economy - they just want something only small group can have.

Is kanaxai that cool as a mini pet? Probably not, but since its rare people want it. If tomorrow anet gave 50000 of them randomly, no one would care about kanaxai mini pet.

Remember elemental swords and dead swords? People went crazy about them "oh they are so nice and blah di blah". They start being common you wont even see someone display it.

The economy in guild wars is death cause my game is a closed game or almost. The only ways people can have an impact on my game are materials price and rune prices.

I guess if people are feeling bored with the game and if playing with friends/messing about with them, or playing GvG isnt enough, they need a new challenge.

Juno Reactor · Jul 22, 2008, 04:59 AM // 04:59

The economy isn't in a depression. You should have been around for the great depression. THAT was a DEPRESSION.

This, this is what we call deflation.

FF_Timmeh · Jul 22, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I would play the game as if it was an RPG, not a trade simulator.

Yeah, weird I know.

Rehnahvah Gahro · Jul 22, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Of course the economy always goes downhill, but the single main reason for the all time low is of course the PvE/PvP Skill Split.

Anet dug a fine deep grave for the economy by giving in to some whining PvEers (I am a PvEer myself, but I tend to use my brain once in a while to think about solutions to nerfs) and now you have it: The "casual" (that's the lazy ass that does not want to do anything for his achievements) gamer farms everything in UW 24/7, leading to this situation.

I still do not understand what they were thinking, lets all hope it is all a big test for GW2 (which it is, in a sense GW1 is a giant beta for GW2)

Dante the Warlord · Jul 22, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27

I personally think that more "high-end" items should be craftable. But that had to be done when GW was created. All you need to do is create more crafters and BOOM the economy gets a gold sink. I would suggest creating new Armor, that would be a worthy oppoent to FoW armor... That would create a massive gold sink.

Stockholm · Jul 22, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Rehnahvah Gahro

Of course the economy always goes downhill, but the single main reason for the all time low is of course the PvE/PvP Skill Split.

Anet dug a fine deep grave for the economy by giving in to some whining PvEers (I am a PvEer myself, but I tend to use my brain once in a while to think about solutions to nerfs) and now you have it: The "casual" (that's the lazy ass that does not want to do anything for his achievements) gamer farms everything in UW 24/7, leading to this situation.

I still do not understand what they were thinking, lets all hope it is all a big test for GW2 (which it is, in a sense GW1 is a giant beta for GW2)

STFU, the casual gamer is the one that gets an hours play after the kid's have gone to bed, and sure as hell don't want to spend that hour setting up a new build, because some wimp got his ass kicked in PvP and cried nerf to Izzy.